In this unedited conversation, Krista interviewed Steve Waldman, journalist and founder of Beliefnet, for the produced show "Steven Waldman on Liberating the Founders." Listen to their complete, unedited conversation. Here's your chance to observe the editorial process and let us know what you think. Americans remain divided about how much religion they want in their political life. As we elect a new president, we return to an evocative, relevant conversation from earlier this year with journalist Steven Waldman. From his unusual study of the American founders, he understands why 21st-century struggles over religion in the public square spur passionate disagreement and entanglement with politics at its most impure. See more at onbeing.org/program/liberating-founders/122