Seattle, Washington. Steven Rinella and Janis Putelis talk with guests Matt Elliott of Benchmade Knife Company and environmental historian Randall Williams. Subjects discussed: getting hunting spots from people who’ve moved far away; the federal ban of lead shot pellets for waterfowl; why terms like ‘ecofacist’ and ‘libtard’ are for dumbasses; why it’s hard to make knives that love saltwater; the different types of steels used to make knives; sports cutlery enthusiasts; butterfly knives, and what happened (if anything) happened to them; buying a trapline though the classified ads; lead poisoning from shot vs. industrial pollutants; and shooting monolithic vs. lead core bullets.