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The Chopping Block: Scarcity vs. Abundance, AI’s Crypto Role, and Virtuals - Ep. 759

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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, the crew is joined by special guest Jansen, co-founder of Virtuals, the leading AI agent launchpad. Together, they dive into the $5 billion Virtuals craze, explore the explosive rise of tokenized AI agents like AIXBT, and debate how AI is reshaping DeFi and blockchain. From the clash between scarcity and abundance to the emergence of agentic societies and decentralized economies, this episode unpacks the key trends driving the next phase of crypto innovation.
Show highlights
🔹 AI and Crypto Convergence: The panel explores how AI agents are revolutionizing blockchain, tokenomics, and decentralized finance (DeFi).
🔹 Virtuals AI Launchpad: Jansen discusses Virtuals, a platform for tokenizing and crowdfunding AI-driven blockchain agents.
🔹 Autonomous AI Evolution: The rise of AI agents from basic chatbots to self-improving tools for crypto and DeFi applications.
🔹 Tokenized AI Agents: How agents like AIXBT generate revenue through trading, attention, and blockchain commerce.
🔹 Managing AI Risks: Insights into policy-based wallets and infrastructure to mitigate risks in autonomous crypto agents.
🔹 Decentralized Agent Societies: A vision for specialized AI agents collaborating in blockchain ecosystems.
🔹 Scarcity vs. Abundance in Crypto: Contrasting crypto’s scarcity-driven models with AI’s abundance and economic disruption.
🔹 AI Agent Backlash: Predictions of anti-AI sentiment as agents dominate Crypto Twitter and online communities.
🔹 Blockchain Verifiability: The role of cryptographic proofs in ensuring trust and security in AI-driven tokenized economies.
🔹 Future of AI in Crypto: Debates on sustainable applications for AI agents in trading, DeFi, and digital economies.

Hosts
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

Special Guest
⭐️Jansen Teng, Co-Founder and CEO of Virtuals Protocol

Disclosures

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

02:19 What Are AI Agents?

07:23 AI Agents in Crypto

13:04 AI-Driven Societies Emerge

15:53 Challenges of AI Agents

24:47 Tokenizing AI Revenue Models

35:13 AI Crypto Predictions

43:26 AI Influencers and Trust

53:54 Perception of AI Content

01:04:44 Humans vs. AI Roles

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Publication year
2025
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