Nadia Bolz-Weber is the pastor and founder of the Denver-based church the House for All Sinners and Saints. Her spiritual memoir is "Pastrix: The Cranky, Beautiful Faith of a Sinner and Saint." This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Nadia Bolz-Weber — Seeing the Underside and Seeing God: Tattoos, Tradition, and Grace." Find more at onbeing.org.