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Ethena's L1 Shows Fat Apps Are on the Rise. Can They Beat Fat Protocols? - Ep. 804

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Blockchains were supposed to capture the majority of the value in crypto. But what if that’s wrong?
For years, the Fat Protocols Thesis argued that blockchains would be the biggest winners. But new data suggests that apps like Uniswap, Ethena, and others are now out-earning many networks.
Are we watching the rise of “Fat Apps” instead?
On this episode, Ryan Watkins, Co-founder at Syncracy Capital, talks about:

Why the biggest apps are generating more revenue than many layer 1s

Why Ethena is launching its own blockchain

What this means for Ethereum, Solana & other L1s

How blockchains can compete on value capture

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Guest

Ryan Watkins, Co-founder at Syncracy Capital
Links

Unchained: Ethena Labs and Securitize to Launch New EVM Blockchain for DeFi

Syncracy Capital: Applications Capture Fees, Blockchains Store Value

Hansolar’s tweet

Pump.fun launches its own DEX

Timestamps:

👋0:00 Intro

💰 2:12 Why apps are out-earning the blockchains they run on

🔗 5:44 Ethena’s move: why it’s launching its own chain

📈 8:33 The rise of “Fat Apps” and what it means for crypto

🚀 12:50 How today’s crypto founders think differently from past builders

🏆 15:51 The blockchain architectures that will dominate

⚖️ 22:32 Whether L1s can compete in this new environment

📊 241:27 How blockchains accrue value and why MEV isn’t the best metric

📰 31:00 News Recap

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Publication year
2025
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